Příspěvky nebo odpovědi uživatele Frantacech

http://www.forex-tsd.com/expert-advisors-metatrader-4/5814-top-tenets-mechanical-trading.html

Naprosta vetsina indikatoru ukazuje jen minulost, jsou opozdene. Navic vetsina indikatoru jsou jen variace na stejne tema. Jen to v podstate jen o statistice, minimalizuj straty a nech bezet profit.

Jediny indikator ukazujici neco v realnem case je holy price graf a pripadne pivoty a fibonacci level.

Pred casem jsem nasel na internetu uzasny clanek:

http://championship.mql4.com/2006/news/112
Third place - Nikolay Kositsin, Russia. His prize is 15 000 dollars from Interbank FX LLC. His Expert Advisor, GODZILLA, earned over 21 thousand dollars!  To be honest, prior to this championship of trading robots, I did not take automated trading very seriously and supposed this occupation to be a kind of just a highbrow pastime. So, in MQL 4, I concentrated on development of more and more complicated indicators for manual trading. But preparations for the Championship, its process itself followed by analysis of inaccuracies made in setting of external variables in my EA assured me: Automated trading has much more advantages than the manual one! As a matter of fact, it just needs spending some time to develop and create much more complicated and smart Expert Advisors capable to adjust to the current market conditions more delicately and more dexterously! At present, computers can beat humans at chess. So now we have just to concentrate on creation of programs similar to chess programs, but developed for financial markets. I don't think, of course, that this way will be easy and bestrewn with roses. But my opinion is: Those who will be able to appreciate advantages of this field at their true value and invest the most of their intelligence into creation of Expert Advisors will once be definitely rewarded for their efforts!
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Treti misto - Nikolay Kositsin, Russia. Jeho vyhra je 15k dolaru od Interbank FX LLC. Jeho Expert Advisor, GODZILLA, dosahl vice nez 21k dolaru! Abych rekl pravdu, pred touto soutezi obchodujicich robotu jsem nebral automaticke obchodovani prilis vazne a povazoval tuto cinnost za urcity druh intelektualni zabavy. Takze jsem se v ramci MQL 4 soustredoval na vyvoj vice a vice komplikovanych indikatoru pro manualni obchodovani. Ale priprava na soutez, jeji proces nasledovany analyzou nepresnosti obsazenych v nastaveni externich promennych v mem EA me ujistila ze: Automaticke obchodovani zahrnuje mnohem vice vyhod nez obchodovani Manualni! V podstate to vyzaduje pouze venovat urcity cas vyvoji a vytvorit mnohem komplikovanejsi a chytrejsi EA schopneho prizpusobit se jemneji a obratneji konktretnim trznim podminkam. V soucasnosti dokazi pocitace porazit cloveka v sachu, takze nyni se musime vice koncentrovat na tvorbu programu podobnych programum sachovym, ale se zamerenim na financni trhy. Samozrejme si nemyslim, ze tato cesta bude snadna a vystlana ruzemi, ale muj nazor je: Ti, kteri budou schopni ocenit vyhody teto oblasti v jejich opravdovych hodnotach a investovat co nejvice sve inteligence do vyvoje EA budou jednou rozhodne za sve usili odmeneni.

No a co? V prvni rade jde o penize. Kdyz idiot vydelava, je treba mu dat prostor ne?Tady mas ZAZRAK. Zacal ze 100euro na mini uctu. Je to jen simulace nad skutecnymi daty. Real bude nekde jinde, ale muzu ti prozradit ze jen o neco horsi. Trva mu cca 1x mesic zdvojnasobit ucet nebo o nej prijit. Proto dostane do vinku jen 100euro. Je to cesta? Verim ze pro spostu lidi ano. http://www.rubicon.cz/forex/demo/zazrak.htm

V podstate nasype pravidla toho co by sam delal rucne. Z toho plyne ze musi umet rucne, a pak muze pokouset stesti to automatizovat. Problem je , ze nejlepsi pocitac je porad mozek, takze naprogravat dobry automat relativne primitivnim kodem je dost tezke...vlozit do neho vse co oci vidi. A porad to dela jen to co clovek naprogramuje.Strojku na penize jsou haldy, nektere lepsi nektere horsi...vetsina je horsi.Ta hra je VALKA...DEAD MATCH, je tezke vyhrat rucne, stroj to jen automatizuje, dokaze neumavne hlidat a reagovat na co se mu rekne. Nic vic.Treba:http://www.rubicon.cz/forex/demo/ea1.htmhttp://www.rubicon.cz/forex/demo/ea2.htm

Ale neridi Janetko, budes se divit ale neridi. Naopak, clovek nikdy neni schopny reagovat tak rychle, komplexne a bez emoci jako dobry automat. Pac vetsina lidi musi jist, spat, pripadne delat i neco jineho. Navic obchodovat takove trhy to neni jako akcie na BCPP, kde muzes hazet sipkou na seznam akcii a podle toho nakupovat a i tak casem vydelas.Tenhle level je uplne jinde a vic nez cokoliv jineho tam hrajou roli emoce, strach, hamyznost. to co tady zazijes na burze za 5let ti probehne na forexu jako dejavu 3x mesicne.

The top tenets of mechanical trading Deset hlavních zásad mechanického obchodování1. If you cannot quickly recite the daily, weekly and monthly support & resistance values for any pair you're planning to trade with an EA, you shouldn't be trading.1. Pokud nedokazete rychle odříkat hodnoty denních, týdenních a mesicních supportu a rezistenci pro kterykoli par, se kterym planujete pomoci EA obchodovat, pak byste obchodovat nemeli.2. If you can't manually calculate the currency exchange conversion values for any pair you're planning to trade with an EA, you shouldn't be trading.2. Pokud nedokazete manualne spocitat hodnoty konverzi smennych kurzu za jakykoli par, se kterym planujete s EA obchodovat, pak byste obchodovat nemeli.3. If you cannot read and understand the code of an EA you're planning to trade with, you shouldn't be trading with it.3. Pokud nedokazete cist a porozumet kodu EA, se kterym planujete obchodovat, nemeli byste s nim obchodovat.4. If you haven't learned to successfully trade manually for at least a year or two, you shouldn't be mechanically trading with an EA.4. Pokud jste se nenaucili uspesne po dobu nejmene jednoho az dvou let manualne obchodovat, nemeli byste s EA mechanicky obchodovat.5. 99% of all EA's are destined to fail. Some sooner, some later.5. Osudem 99% EAs je selhat. Nekteri drive, nekteri pozdeji.6. Technical indicators don't work. They're a big fib to appease retail traders.6. Technicke indikatory se neosvedcuji. Je to velky podfuk k uspokojeni obchodniku v malem.7. Knowledge of only price action, a few key patterns, and support/resistance is necessary to trade.7. Pouze znalost chovani ceny, nekolika klicovych formaci a supportu/rezistenci jsou nutne k obchodovani.8. If you cannot quickly name the 10 key news events and their dates/times during the upcoming month, you shouldn't be trading.8. Pokud nedokazete rychle vyjmenovat 10 klicovych news udalosti nadchazejiciho mesice a jejich datum/cas, nemeli byste obchodovat.9. You're worst enemy in trading is your broker.9. Vas nejvetsi nepritel při obchodovani je broker.10. Broker Pip spreads are only a portion of your trade cost. You are regularly gouged by slippage costs. If your EA has a default slippage value of 3, guess what your typical slippage will be? If it's set to 4, guess what your typical slippage will be? 10. Brokerovy Pip spready jsou pouze casti vasich obchodnich nakladu. Pravidelne jste oskubavani naklady na slippage. Pokud ma vas EA default hodnotu slippage 3, hadejte jaka bude vase typicka slippage? Pokud je nastavena na 4, hadejte jaka bude vase typicka slippage?11. The only EA's that will be profitable are the ones that are cleverly designed to out-fox the brokers and other insideous market forces by resorting to tricks, gimmicks, and smoke & mirrors tactics.11. Jedini EAs, kteří jsou ziskovi jsou ti, kteří jsou dovedne dimenzovani, aby prechytracili brokery a další interni trzni sily, tim ze se uchyluji k trikum, chytrym manevrum a taktikam koure a zrcadla.12. Any EA's freely available publicly will lose your trading account. 12. Kterykoli EAs, dostupne volni verejne promrhaji vas obchodni ucet.13. 95% of "traders" on public forums are as uneducated as you are about trading. Be wary of free advice.13. 95% „obchodniku“ na verejnych forech jsou ohledne obchodovani stejne nevedomi jako vy sami. Drzte se na pozoru před bezplatnym poradenstvim.14. The average trader who is persistent and lucky enough to eventually become a profitable trader regularly will first lose $20K - $30K in the markets and spend another $10K on books, lessons, eBooks, subscriptions and software. The rest will perish somewhere along that path.14. Prumerny obchodnik, který je dostatecne vytrvaly a ma dostatecne stesti, aby se stal ziskovym obchodnikem, postupne prijde na trhu o 20k USD – 30k USD a utrati dalsich 10k USD za knihy, lekce, e-knihy, predplatne a software. Zbytek se vypari nekde po ceste.15. The amount of time you are "exposed" in the market through active trading, either manually or mechanically, is inversely proportional to your profitability success rate. 15. Mnozstvi casu, který venujete aktivnimu obchodovani na trzich, a to bud manualne nebo mechanicky, je neprimo umerne vasemu stupni uspesne ziskovosti.16. Two high probability trades yielding 15 pips each and using a lot size of 50 is all you need each week.16. Vse co každý tyden potrebujete je vytezek 15pips kazdeho ze dvou obchodu vysoke pravdepodobnosti a hodnota lotu 50.--------------------------------------------Tim nechci rict ze to nefunguje nebo ze to nelze. Jen je to natolik obtizne, ze obvykle se rukama vydela vic a bezpecneji. Akorat je to bez emoci, neunavne a nelitostne. Vyrobit funkcni profitabilni automat, ktery je relativne bezpecny je podle me tezsi nez se naucit obchodovat rucne.

The top tenets of mechanical trading Deset hlavních zásad mechanického obchodování1. If you cannot quickly recite the daily, weekly and monthly support & resistance values for any pair you're planning to trade with an EA, you shouldn't be trading.1. Pokud nedokazete rychle odříkat hodnoty denních, týdenních a mesicních supportu a rezistenci pro kterykoli par, se kterym planujete pomoci EA obchodovat, pak byste obchodovat nemeli.2. If you can't manually calculate the currency exchange conversion values for any pair you're planning to trade with an EA, you shouldn't be trading.2. Pokud nedokazete manualne spocitat hodnoty konverzi smennych kurzu za jakykoli par, se kterym planujete s EA obchodovat, pak byste obchodovat nemeli.3. If you cannot read and understand the code of an EA you're planning to trade with, you shouldn't be trading with it.3. Pokud nedokazete cist a porozumet kodu EA, se kterym planujete obchodovat, nemeli byste s nim obchodovat.4. If you haven't learned to successfully trade manually for at least a year or two, you shouldn't be mechanically trading with an EA.4. Pokud jste se nenaucili uspesne po dobu nejmene jednoho az dvou let manualne obchodovat, nemeli byste s EA mechanicky obchodovat.5. 99% of all EA's are destined to fail. Some sooner, some later.5. Osudem 99% EAs je selhat. Nekteri drive, nekteri pozdeji.6. Technical indicators don't work. They're a big fib to appease retail traders.6. Technicke indikatory se neosvedcuji. Je to velky podfuk k uspokojeni obchodniku v malem.7. Knowledge of only price action, a few key patterns, and support/resistance is necessary to trade.7. Pouze znalost chovani ceny, nekolika klicovych formaci a supportu/rezistenci jsou nutne k obchodovani.8. If you cannot quickly name the 10 key news events and their dates/times during the upcoming month, you shouldn't be trading.8. Pokud nedokazete rychle vyjmenovat 10 klicovych news udalosti nadchazejiciho mesice a jejich datum/cas, nemeli byste obchodovat.9. You're worst enemy in trading is your broker.9. Vas nejvetsi nepritel při obchodovani je broker.10. Broker Pip spreads are only a portion of your trade cost. You are regularly gouged by slippage costs. If your EA has a default slippage value of 3, guess what your typical slippage will be? If it's set to 4, guess what your typical slippage will be? 10. Brokerovy Pip spready jsou pouze casti vasich obchodnich nakladu. Pravidelne jste oskubavani naklady na slippage. Pokud ma vas EA default hodnotu slippage 3, hadejte jaka bude vase typicka slippage? Pokud je nastavena na 4, hadejte jaka bude vase typicka slippage?11. The only EA's that will be profitable are the ones that are cleverly designed to out-fox the brokers and other insideous market forces by resorting to tricks, gimmicks, and smoke & mirrors tactics.11. Jedini EAs, kteří jsou ziskovi jsou ti, kteří jsou dovedne dimenzovani, aby prechytracili brokery a další interni trzni sily, tim ze se uchyluji k trikum, chytrym manevrum a taktikam koure a zrcadla.12. Any EA's freely available publicly will lose your trading account. 12. Kterykoli EAs, dostupne volni verejne promrhaji vas obchodni ucet.13. 95% of "traders" on public forums are as uneducated as you are about trading. Be wary of free advice.13. 95% „obchodniku“ na verejnych forech jsou ohledne obchodovani stejne nevedomi jako vy sami. Drzte se na pozoru před bezplatnym poradenstvim.14. The average trader who is persistent and lucky enough to eventually become a profitable trader regularly will first lose $20K - $30K in the markets and spend another $10K on books, lessons, eBooks, subscriptions and software. The rest will perish somewhere along that path.14. Prumerny obchodnik, který je dostatecne vytrvaly a ma dostatecne stesti, aby se stal ziskovym obchodnikem, postupne prijde na trhu o 20k USD – 30k USD a utrati dalsich 10k USD za knihy, lekce, e-knihy, predplatne a software. Zbytek se vypari nekde po ceste.15. The amount of time you are "exposed" in the market through active trading, either manually or mechanically, is inversely proportional to your profitability success rate. 15. Mnozstvi casu, který venujete aktivnimu obchodovani na trzich, a to bud manualne nebo mechanicky, je neprimo umerne vasemu stupni uspesne ziskovosti.16. Two high probability trades yielding 15 pips each and using a lot size of 50 is all you need each week.16. Vse co každý tyden potrebujete je vytezek 15pips kazdeho ze dvou obchodu vysoke pravdepodobnosti a hodnota lotu 50.--------------------------------------------Tim nechci rict ze to nefunguje nebo ze to nelze. Jen je to natolik obtizne, ze obvykle se rukama vydela vic a bezpecneji. Akorat je to bez emoci, neunavne a nelitostne. Vyrobit funkcni profitabilni automat, ktery je relativne bezpecny je podle me tezsi nez se naucit obchodovat rucne.